There, I made a chart of every current F1 teams' lineage

"Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire" (arch-duke-maxyenko) 07/06/2015 at 19:05 • Filed to: F1

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It’s as basic as I could make it

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/06/2015 at 19:16

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YOUR FACE IS BASIC

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 07/06/2015 at 19:19

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tromoly > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/06/2015 at 20:53

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Any chance you can upload a higher resolution / bigger picture? I can’t read a bunch of the logos with the Kinja zoom thing.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > tromoly 07/06/2015 at 21:01

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Here’s the png, but there’s no background

I’m not sure why the jpg doesn’t show up so great, it’s a huge picture.

tromoly > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/06/2015 at 21:11

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How are you defining lineage? Every timeline I’m seeing for teams has a few differences from a few of the connections you have shown.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > tromoly 07/06/2015 at 21:16

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Owners, who’s cars did they use in the beginnings. What differences did you find?

tromoly > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/06/2015 at 21:45

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Pacific did merge with Team Lotus, however that Pacific-Lotus team had no connection to the Minardi team, Minardi was a team built from scratch.

McLaren and Cooper really aren’t connected, Bruce drove for Cooper in F1 but ran his McLaren cars in the Tasman series, and once Cooper started going downhill left to build his own F1-spec cars.

Connaught was out of F1 before Brabham was founded, no chance of connection there.

Arrows was a completely new team, founded by people who had previously worked at Shadow, both teams ran side-by-side so they really aren’t connected either.

Brabham (the team) started making lower-formula cars, it wasn’t until Jack left Cooper that Brabham built an F1 car, both are completely separate teams.

Frank Williams Race Cars did become Walter Wolf Racing, however Williams GP Engineering was founded a year later and both teams existed at the same time, both teams are not connected.

I understand that Scuderia Ferrari used to be under the Alfa banner, but that was before Alfa Corse became the Alfa racing team and before Enzo completely left Alfa, the Ferrari in F1 had no connection to the Alfa teams at time of F1’s formal founding.

Here’s one timeline I’ve been using:

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > tromoly 07/06/2015 at 22:34

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Pacific Racing: In 2006, Paul Stoddart , former owner of the Minardi F1 team, bought an interest in the team and re-christened it Minardi Team USA .(Source: Wikipedia)

McLaren: Bruce used a Cooper for the Tasman series that was badged as a McLaren. (Source: From The Cockpit, by Bruce McLaren)

Brabham: Jack began developing his own cars while running his privateer Coopers and got several people from Cooper to go with him. (Also From The Cockpit) Connaught was owned by a Mr. Bernie Ecclestone, who then also owned Brabham.

Frank Williams was involved with all stages which makes them related and a direct lineage.

Ferrari started with Alfa, which is one reason why they are related. The other being that they are owned by the same company now along with the Alfa badges on the cars.

tromoly > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/06/2015 at 23:21

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I’m still not buying how Pacific in any way became a part of the Minardi that is now a part of Toro Rosso, however that’s pretty interesting that Stoddart ran in CCWS for a bit.

Where did you see that Bernie owned Connaught? Everything I’m seeing says Rodney Clarke owned the company, and that Bernie bought a few chassis from the team as they went under.

As for the rest, there’s still things about their early years that I would consider reasons for them to be completely separate teams, however it’s not worth arguing over. In the end the lineage you put together is pretty great, and I can say I learned a few new things along the way, thanks for sharing this.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > tromoly 07/07/2015 at 06:20

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ec…

Go to motorsports career

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/07/2015 at 08:59

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Technically, isn’t Frank Williams Racing Cars unrelated to the modern Williams team apart from the name? FWRC became Walter Wolff racing which became part of Fittipaldi.

tromoly > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/07/2015 at 13:24

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He bought a couple cars as customer chassis, he never owned the Counnaught team. If you’re going to make that connection, then you might as well say that Frank Williams Racing Cars is a direct lineage of Brabham, DeTomaso, and Matra because early Frank bought customer cars from them for a few years before developing his own chassis. Or add Lotus to Brabham’s lineage as Jack Brabham used a Lotus 24 for five rounds of the championship in 1962.